I seem to have a problem with trying to add a flash movie as a background behind this code or a piece of javascript that will allow we to fade in random images on page logo. Also the page seems to have a permanent margin on 15px?

I have removed the width as I only wanted it to be aligned vertically as I want my container aligned to the left.

Thanks in advance

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Thats the first tutorial using divs for css vertical alignment thats worked for me! Good stuff, thanks.

Great coding what’s more awesome after putting this type of code any other divs don’t need positioning in main container.. they are just like a bricks.. one on top of other..
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Nice Tutorial. I will definitely want to learn more things in CSS.

As usually – good work. thanks.

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Ignore that last post – I’d set the wrapper div’s width wrong… guess I’m a bit of a div.

Thanks for the code – have been looking for somthing like this for a while… making a website for a friend and it’s embarrasing to not know how to vertically center something on a page!!!

I still have a little problem though… works great in FF3, but in IE7 the div won’t center horizontally – seems to be glued to the left of my broswer window.

Can anyone suggest what the problem might be?

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Hi ,

I still believe , negative margin (with absolute or relative positionning ) is not ‘accessible’ nor really efficient , browsers are improving ther behaviors ..

Nowdays , beside te real table (must be styled with CSS ) you can decently look after : inline-block and get used to display:table;

Display:table; will finally be understood by IE 8 , it’s about time to learn to use it and do not confuse table & css , IE6 & 7 will survive for a while . So not really usable in a professionnal context or website yet .

Inline-block , is now understood too bye FF3 , FF2 has a work around easy to set up (& usershould not take years to update) ,
Conditionnel Comment needed for IE 7 and below of course to serve an inline-block css compatible with block elements in standard mode (it’s all about haslayout ).

Where it is more efficient , is that you don’t need to know or set the height of the element to center. … you can set a few elements aside and vertical aligned . (inline-block requiert 2 elements ne that takes heights of screen or minimum height to set in a box wherever i, a page , a second one wich the vertical centered elements container.

The CSS rules used for FF2 and below , needs an extra wrapper to control the stakking effect , this element is useful too to contain white-space in IE if used … because of that one pixel jog .

see it here (css inside head section) : http://yidille.free.fr/plux/valign/uploads/centre-inline-stack.html

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Hello ,

Using negative margin brings some problem if the screnn height or wigth is les than the centered element , and it is a quiet old trick .

Min-width and min-height can avoid these ‘accessibilty ” troubles , a turn around is even possible in IE6 if you use a standard mode .

As long as IE7 will be around , you won’t be abble to beat the table “element” for real efficient or non buggy vertical-align elsewhere you have a td or 2 inline elements to vertical center .

Beside the table elements , i propose 4 ways to center a div element or whatever in a page without a table : http://yidille.free.fr/plux/valign/index.php?004/Css-gabarits
(a demo inline is there and then down the bottom links to full template html page , to show it works either for a page or a portion of a page … i’m french , so the page i written in french , … css doesn’t care about the language you speak , so look at the source if youre curious )

For each and if needed , i propose an IE alternative .
The exemple are using a valid doctype because it’s now end of 2008

(sorry , but i hate this negative margin if you let the content able to diseappear on top or left side , it just doesn’t help )

GC

#outer {width: 100%; height:60%; text-align:center;}
#inner {width: 402px; margin: 20% auto 20% auto;}

u can set the [outer] height’s size as per your requirement

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It can be much, much easier:

html, body, #table { height:100%; }
body {
text-align:center;
display:table;
width:100%;
}
#table {
display:table-cell;
vertical-align: middle;
}

The IE fix:

#container {
margin-top:expression(((offsetParent.offsetHeight-offsetHeight)/2)+’px’); }

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please give the rounded shape box on table less design

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Nice trick. But until css3 is perfected/implemented I would I would be fine w/ using a table because realistically it is more stable.

Well margin:0 auto; makes it on center, so remove that auto word and add right:1px;
Try it and let me know if it works

Sweet!
I’ve used it, and it’s working!
It’s not on the web yet though.
I’ll let you know when.

But let’s say I wanted to align it right – would all I have to include is:

float:right

?

@ Billgates
Yes, but this is tableless code

This is a working vertical DIV alignment (including clipping). No percentages used, and it works on both IE and FF.

http://cssbeauty.com/skillshare/discussion/2607/real-working-div-vertical-align/

@ Brian
Yes that’s right
Did you find answer from your forum question here?

So in that demo, the red box is what is centered?

@ Berkana
No, it has to be like this

Click here for demo

Should the code for div#wrapper say “margin-top:-200px;” rather than “top:-200px;” ?

This is a problem that has definitely plagued a lot of us designers/developers. I know that I certainly have tried to find a solution for this many times.

Fortunately, many situations have allowed for me to set a height to the element I wish to apply the middle vertical align effect, and in a small area of the website, so it did not rise an issue with the scrolling of the page.

I too hope that CSS3 will solve this, though I do believe that there is a JS fix for it, but I don’t know what it would be.